Came across a new blog that tracks Tulsa urban development. I've promoted a Tulsa counterpart before and then been disappointed when they end up a flash in the pan, so I wish Kyle, the blogger of Come on Tulsa, the best of luck--and a lot of energy and gusto!
This reminds me, I myself have a few Tulsa construction update pics that I took recently... just more pics that I'm backed up with!
Showing posts with label Tulsa. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tulsa. Show all posts
Saturday, August 27, 2011
Sunday, December 12, 2010
Friday, December 10, 2010
Tulsa's own West Bank smirmish
Jerry Gordon, the developer of the RiverWalk Crossing project in Jenks, was apparently a big player in a project that was proposed for the west bank of the Arkansas River in Tulsa. The great thing about these TDA & City Council-involved projects is that we only find out about them after they're dead. My personal opinion of this project is that it's a pretty rendering but it's really not too special of a project..though the harbor it integrates is kinda cool.
Their website says: "This is our newest project under design and planning on the beautiful Arkansas River looking over downtown Tulsa. It will feature a Harbor, Docks, Theater, Hotel, Amphitheater, and over 500,000 square feet of Retail, Office, and Residential."
Here's the rendering:

After the powers that be in Tulsa decided to stop working with him, which it should be noted that Gordon is a very angry individual who is currently up to his eyeballs in bankruptcy, Gordon wrote this lovely letter to Mayor Bartlett's chief of staff, Terry Simonson, and CC'd Bill Christiansen and Jim Robertson:
From: Jerry Gordon
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010
Subject:
To: "Simonson, Terry" CC: Christiansen, Bill; CC: Robertson, Jim
Mr. Simonson, This letter is to inform you that at this time I am backing down on my plans to develop the West bank as I have spent the last 7 months planning. I have to say you and the Mayor's interference in my project is legally wrong and could be fought as Tortuous (sic) interference, also known as Intentional interference with contractual relations but I think fighting that is something that this City doesn't need to go through at this time with this administration. I was trying to help MY city, not hurt it as I feel you are doing. I will warn you of this though, Please do not attempt to distribute or copy my plans in any way or I will seek legal action. I confided in you and the Mayor and expect that much out of you. One more point, when I started this process I asked of Julie Minor and Clay Byrd, in our first meeting, to please not let politics get into our planning because I have seen what can happen. You have sure shown me why Tulsa s always trailing Oklahoma City.
Jerry R. Gordon
JRG Developments,LLC
Wow. What a tool.
Their website says: "This is our newest project under design and planning on the beautiful Arkansas River looking over downtown Tulsa. It will feature a Harbor, Docks, Theater, Hotel, Amphitheater, and over 500,000 square feet of Retail, Office, and Residential."
Here's the rendering:

After the powers that be in Tulsa decided to stop working with him, which it should be noted that Gordon is a very angry individual who is currently up to his eyeballs in bankruptcy, Gordon wrote this lovely letter to Mayor Bartlett's chief of staff, Terry Simonson, and CC'd Bill Christiansen and Jim Robertson:

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010
Subject:
To: "Simonson, Terry" CC: Christiansen, Bill; CC: Robertson, Jim
Mr. Simonson, This letter is to inform you that at this time I am backing down on my plans to develop the West bank as I have spent the last 7 months planning. I have to say you and the Mayor's interference in my project is legally wrong and could be fought as Tortuous (sic) interference, also known as Intentional interference with contractual relations but I think fighting that is something that this City doesn't need to go through at this time with this administration. I was trying to help MY city, not hurt it as I feel you are doing. I will warn you of this though, Please do not attempt to distribute or copy my plans in any way or I will seek legal action. I confided in you and the Mayor and expect that much out of you. One more point, when I started this process I asked of Julie Minor and Clay Byrd, in our first meeting, to please not let politics get into our planning because I have seen what can happen. You have sure shown me why Tulsa s always trailing Oklahoma City.
Jerry R. Gordon
JRG Developments,LLC
Wow. What a tool.
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Sunday, December 5, 2010
Compare to Tulsa City Council wards

I present to you, a ward map that makes sense. There aren't really any wards that traverse major boundaries and each area of town is given a great sense of autonomy by these districts. They also, for the most part, have smaller wards than we do. Tulsa, a city of 389,000 in the 2009 estimate, has 9 wards at about 44,000 each. Oklahoma City, with about 570,000 in the 2009 estimate, has 8 wards at about 71,000 each. This would tend to suggest OKC needs more wards in order to have as representative a body as Tulsa, and I would argue that 44,000/ward is still high. Also consider that Tulsa pretty much has 4 wards that represent the inner city. 2 for Midtown and 2 for North Tulsa. OKC's inner south has no ward that represents it, whereas North Tulsa has 2 that represent it.

Calgary is also redrawing lines in its 14-ward City Council. Here's a great map drawn up by a Calgary blogger..the color fills represent the new wards, the black lines represent the old. This redistricting is supposed to ensure a more representative council. So apparently it can be done by just redrawing lines. I would also mention that Calgary has a ratio of about 75,000 citizens to 1 alderman. You'll see that the UC area (Ward 7) and inner-north side of Calgary is being consolidated into one ward. Presently it's a lot like Capitol Hill--an area broken up by 3 or 4 wards depending on how you geographically define it.
Maybe what's interesting is that the redistricting in Calgary is taking place now that the overwhelming majority of the inner city has been gentrified. You're just as likely to see minorities in the burbs now as you are in the inner city, the only different is that the ones downtown are much more affluent and the ones in the suburbs got bumped out by the high rent in the Beltline (south of downtown). So basically the modus operandii while the inner city was fragmented and poor was to gerrymander and split it up into a dozen different districts that made no sense as long as each had a different area of town to counterbalance the minority votes. Now that the inner city is gentrified and affluent, the modus operandii is to go back and draw lines that make a little more sense. So does anything really change? OKC will probably follow the same trajectory. We won't do it this time just yet, but next time this comes up in 2021 we probably will finally get around to some wards that make sense. Lookin at you, Capitol Hill.
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Thursday, July 8, 2010
Cityshot LVIII
15th and Utica in the Cherry Street area of Midtown Tulsa. Arvest Bank (left) and Stillwater National Bank (right). Bumgarner projects.
In Tulsa, they dislike these buildings. In OKC..we would probably jump for joy.
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Wednesday, June 2, 2010
State funding for Tulsa roads

This sinkhole should be a wake-up call to the legislature that Tulsa is being sorely left behind for road funding. I myself am an OKC guy that can realize Tulsa is indeed getting the shaft here. The sinkhole will be filled, but who wants to drive on a road after there's already been one sinkhole? I can not think of a less safe road in all of Oklahoma. But it's great that we have a $600 million project to move I-40, as long as the highway builders get their money, that's all gravy.
Saturday, May 8, 2010
T-Town update

The last update was the first post focusing on Tulsa development in this blog in what..a year? two years? So this update won't be as exhaustive as the last one was..since only a month has passed, but nonetheless, you'd be surprised. If the point of my last update was "Gee guys, look at ALL of this development in Tulsa!" the point is amplified by this post, only a month later, in my opinion.
The ironic thing is that the City of Tulsa, ever since moving City Hall to One Technology Place, has been incurring $50,000 in maintenance losses for each month that it sits on the former City Hall site, which has now been over a year -- at least $600,000 of the city's money down the drain so far. TDA is going to end up costing much more than the cost difference between the two offers by prolonging the city's ownership of the enormous site.

And outside of Brookside and Blue Dome development news.. one neighborhood you never hear about, the Gunboat Park area (tucked in the SE corner of the IDL, by the Home Depot/Warehouse Market development)--is adding a really cool new retail store, an outdoor merchandise store called Just Camp. If this doesn't just say "Tulsa!," then I don't know what does: An outdoors store with merchandise on the first two floors, the third floor with fake grass and a camping area you can rent out (with stellar downtown views), all inside a minimalist Art Deco bldg. Truthfully, the facade still needs work..it's been restored, but in my opinion they need to do something to break up the monotony on the street level, punch in some windows, a door, add a fake door or fake windows, paint the brick--anything. But it's an awesome store, an awesome concept, and it's been awesomely successful too--the 3rd floor urban campout area is completely booked several months out.




And here's the big three proposals, actual development proposals:

Land shaded blue is part of a huge mixed-use development proposal called "Talaas." Not sure what to think of this one because it's competing with other proposals for the same land, the developer is an asshole supposedly, and Tulsa's track record with large-scale development is abysmal although this project has Flintco, Matrix, Gensler, and other big names behind him. The developer itself is Formaation, a new group that has an awesome new contemporary-style office in the East Village neighborhood of DT Tulsa. The problem is that although he has some power players behind him he does not have financing, and when asked, his answer is "layers of government programs" for subsidizing his ultra-sustainable development. He's also envisioning the development of a streetcar between his Talaas development in the East Village and the BOK Center opposite downtown, that he would pay for himself, and not charge a fair for (I guess the idea is a link between his development and BOK). Interestingly, he thinks it would ONLY cost $7 million to do a streetcar linking the East Village with the BOK, which is probably 10+ blocks away. The actual Talaas project is a $400 mil mixed-use village encompassing 49 acres with all sorts of mixed uses, residential, retail, office, hotel, etc. Reminds me of Direct Development's "East End" that never got off, so we'll see..it is different in having the local power players behind it, not to mention downtown Tulsa is a lot hotter development-wise at the moment than it was in 2006..so we shall see.
Several other projects are vying for the same land though. One is a site at 1st and Greenwood with a worthless building on it currently (the Hartford Building)--the proposal is to tear it down and construct a 3-story, 60,000 sf LEED-Silver status building in its place that will be the new headquarters of the Ross Group, a local construction company. Financing in place. Second proposal is by Land Legacy for a strip of land to develop a linear downtown park as a development catalyst. KMO had a proposal to build 50 for-sale condos adjacent to the park. If you're interested in the East Village area of DT Tulsa, definitely check out these pictures on the Tulsa Now forums.
TDA's land at Boston and Archer in the Brady Arts District drew two competing proposals that were also heard at the meeting..one from a Minneapolis-based company to develop a 40-unit project with underground parking using low income/new homer buyer tax credits, the other being from a local developer to do 30 condo units called Urban Green, with street level retail. I really wish I had renderings for any of the projects I just rattled off, but unfortunately you don't usually get that when a project is still in the negotiating phase with TDA. Why bother on spending the resources to develop othorgraphic depictions when who knows what's going to happen with the TDA..

Here's a better geographical depiction of the proposals. The reason the Ross Group needs the three blocks (the LEED bldg will go where the existing bldg is) is so that the other two sites, currently vacant sites, will be surface parking. Their building will be bringing in 50-60 new downtown workers, mostly high incomes. As for the Lofts at 201 Park, I'm guessing that's the name of the KMO project adjacent to the park.

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In closing, I want to reference this article by John Rohde in the Oklahoman. I'm not typically a fan of Rohde's, but this article is great. Rohde wrote: "Sorry to disappoint those who cling to the Tulsa vs. Oklahoma City rivalry. I’ve never been a member of that particular cult and I’m not about to join now, certainly not after soaking in the new ballpark for the first time Friday night during Game 1 of Bedlam." I'm also not one to get too caught up in the Tulsa/OKC rivalry, and I can tell it frustrates a LOT of people that I would dare even point at all of the development in Tulsa--especially when it's become my de facto response to the suggestion that the economy is why we don't see ongoing infill development in OKC. That can't be true. At any rate, Tulsa is a fantastic city, just as OKC is except very, very different from OKC--why can't a little competition be healthy? Seriously, look at all of that infill development!
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Friday, April 9, 2010
Meet "The Urbanists"
I always love checking my email and getting interesting emails from developers, journalists, community agencies, readers, and fellow bloggers.. typically all of my email communications are private because I don't just rehash what people "in the know" tell me--I'm not a guy with a loudspeaker who's going to publicly post all of my private conversations. But I do want to post this, because there's a new Tulsa urbanist blog that's looking for publicity, and if anyone is interested in reading about Tulsa I would very much encourage you all to put it in your daily reading as well. It's called The Urbanists.
They've also done quite a bit of posting on OKC.. funny how I am constantly trying to get OKC to learn from the example of other cities, and I particularly admire Tulsa--the people that are sane in Tulsa (ruling out the "OMG Tulsa > OKC" people, or OKC's version of that) are doing the same in admiring and drawing comparisons to OKC. Here's one post highlighting OKC's "condo success"--funny how they included The Hill. Regardless we wish them the best of luck, and sometimes in Oklahoma's two big cities you have to pull the "Other side of the turnpike is better" card in order to get your city to wake up.
They've also done quite a bit of posting on OKC.. funny how I am constantly trying to get OKC to learn from the example of other cities, and I particularly admire Tulsa--the people that are sane in Tulsa (ruling out the "OMG Tulsa > OKC" people, or OKC's version of that) are doing the same in admiring and drawing comparisons to OKC. Here's one post highlighting OKC's "condo success"--funny how they included The Hill. Regardless we wish them the best of luck, and sometimes in Oklahoma's two big cities you have to pull the "Other side of the turnpike is better" card in order to get your city to wake up.
Thursday, April 8, 2010
Tear that sucker down

Downtown Design Review voted 6-1 to approve SandRidge's application for demolition of four buildings, including the India Temple with its historic merit, and the Kermac Building with its historic merit as well as feasibility. My opinion on the DDR verdict: It was expected. Can anyone say they're surprised? Should DDR have acted differently? Probably, couldn't they have split the proposal and granted all demo's except the Kermac? Probably, but at the end of the day, it was SandRidge's bad proposal. Go check out Automobile Alley, MidTown, Core to Shore, and now especially the downtown area and can anyone TRULY say that demolition isn't becoming extremely widespread? What's more is that almost none of these buildings being demolished left and right, probably about 8 total for now, are going to be replaced with ANYTHING. So this is en effect the continued hollowing out of our downtown core. The only two that are being replaced by something else is the MidTown Medical Business District redevelopment site and one of the uglier buildings SandRidge is demo'ing.
This is an example of a dense downtown (Louisville)


This is what we've done to our downtown, and we continue to regress. We continue to lose density, create more vacant space in downtown, and tear down great historic buildings. There is at least one building with historic merit AND redevelopment potential that we are senselessly losing to SandRidge alone, not to mention the Community Foundation, and other demo's elsewhere.
This is the impact: Can you seriously tell me Downtown OKC is urban on a "Big League City" scale? How can we tout ourselves as a model of urban growth, when to be frank, we are not even close. How are we proud of Downtown OKC? The pride that we did have was mostly in our historic areas and what LITTLE density we did have, and those things continue to shrink and get smaller and smaller in our city. So what do we say next time there are comparisons made between Downtown OKC and .. Tulsa? Charlotte? Fort Worth? Kansas City? How does our downtown compare, what impression of our city will we give out of town residents, etc? The answer can be nothing short of the fact that we are modeling Downtown OKC more and more after Amarillo it seems. With all of the great stuff going on, all of the public investment going on, and all of the private investment just flowing .. we are STILL loosing density, and not gaining density. 2 steps forward, 2 steps backward.. destined to be a downtown that falls well short of the standard set by real cities, such as Tulsa, Louisville, Fort worth, Kansas City, and yes..even Charlotte, which isn't foolishly demolishing numerous buildings without replacing them.


So feast your eyes: It's the downtown of the future that OKC could become..Downtown Amarillo, almost the most underwhelming "urban" environment in America (which is saying a lot in America).
Saturday, March 27, 2010
Downtown development: OKC v. Tulsa

It's really funny, how we talk about these incredibly exciting times for Downtown OKC..and they are incredibly exciting times in Downtown OKC. The level of public investment underway in Downtown OKC is unprecedented in our history, and quite possibly in any other city aside from NYC/LA/Chicago/etc. Indeed at once we are building our landmark green space, a new convention center, one of the nation's largest streetcar systems, rebuilding every one of our public schools, investing in Oklahoma River recreational facilities, moving a highway away from downtown, redoing our NBA arena, rebuilding every downtown street, renovating the Myriad Gardens into a second landmark green space, adding one of the nation's best law schools to downtown, and more. At a break neck speed we have raised the bar for how a city does public investment in its downtown.

So you can't say there hasn't been development in Downtown OKC and that it hasn't been booming, but when you remove our two major corporate projects.. there's nothing going on right now aside from the painfully slow restorations in MidTown..projects that began before the Maywood stuff even broke ground, and projects that still aren't even close to being finished yet. That's the reality of historic preservation, not that the extra work involved isn't by far worth the trouble.
And I can also give you a long rundown list of all of the projects that should be underway right now but aren't for whatever reason, such as The Carnegie, Bricktown Holiday Inn, Overholser Green (lol), and more..but what's the point in doing that? At this point it's just semantics and it's irrelevant, just going to get me upset anyway.

There is also a fair amount of public investment occurring in Downtown Tulsa, although existing only as a fraction comparatively to OKC. Probably comparable (maybe) to MAPS 1, but definitely pales in comparison to the overall picture here.


I won't go into the controversy surrounding it because I did that in the last post, and this is a positive post. (See smiley face: :]) The overall ballpark cost the taxpayers, or whoever is actually paying for it, $39.2 million, and it has seating for 6,200 to watch the Tulsa Drillers, Bedlam Baseball, and probably some college tournaments. Once you add in the cost of land acquisition planned or underway to raffle off to developers willing to take part in "complimentary infill development" the total project cost is $60 million. Compare to $34 million for the 13,000-seat Bricktown Ballpark.


The Centennial Green even has people, so at the end of the day, going off of that you have to assume that it was a successful project. I also feel like it's successful because it avoids issues that could relegate it to some kind of a "plaza feel" -- with the regular street frontage on both sides and the space definition from buildings that border it in the back, it feels like a proper urban space.

Why is there nothing currently active infill-wise in Downtown OKC right now? Everyone says it's because of the economy. That's bunk.. and that brings us to the purpose of this post, a look at all of the development currently underway up the turnpike in Tulsa. There is no way you can tell me it has to do with the economy, because the majority of people in Oklahoma are still doing just as well as they were before the so-called recession, if not better. Maybe Downtown Tulsa is "too big to fail" and Downtown OKC isn't, who knows. Maybe all of the new residential units in DT Tulsa are being marketed towards the enormous Tulsa homeless population who will qualify for Obama's first-time homebuyer welfare, but that doesn't change the fact that Tulsa is under the exact same economic conditions as OKC.
And yet, here's some ACTIVE development going on within the IDL (Inner Dispersal Loop) in Tulsa:


On a side note, if the former government district on the west edge of DT Tulsa ends up getting completely redeveloped following the precedent of deals such as this, it will need a catchy district name.. I don't think "Government District" is really that marketing, not even in an edgy sense. How about SoBOK (South of BOK)? Just a random thought..




Tulsans also await to see what will come of the Abundant Life Building, which is also involved in the condemnation process (which involves a trumped-up $1,000/day fine for every day a building is not up to code). The Abundant Life Bldg is a different situation though because the City is working with prominent Tulsan David Horton on a project to redevelop the bldg into the Diamond Lofts, which I mentioned in the last post as well as in this post I wrote a year ago.















The First Street Lofts, a $2.8 million project financed in part by a $1.3 million Vision 2025 loan, is a Blue Dome District project. This building has actually been in some form of redevelopment for the last 30 years, interestingly enough..now it's finally coming to fruition. The building had to be structurally rebuilt, as very little of the shell's structural integrity would suffice after the decades of redevelopment attempts. The project by Tulsa resident Michael Sager will have 18 high-end lofts, and on the ground floor will be a grocery, deli, and restaurant..dunno about the restaurant, but I seem to remember something about Sager landing a lease for a grocery tenant, which will be a boon to Blue Dome.

According to this Tulsa Whirled article, a fourth Brady-area housing project applied for funding but was turned down, in favor of Snyder's Detroit Ave project. The turned down project was a proposal by a University Development Group (couldn't find anything on the web..) for the Lofts on Frankfort, a $4.8 million, 20-unit project located in the East Village, between the ballpark and the east leg of the IDL (US 75/64). The group is in discussions right now with the TDA to purchase the site where they would build a 3-story mixed-use building with the 20 residential units, plus 7 ground-floor office spaces. The group has declined to discuss specifics with the media, but luckily the $769,000 would have only been used to secure parking for the development, rest of which they have financing in place for.

Last, but not least..


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